That Ziya occasionally stirred up positive discussion was more an accidental side effect of the sheer volume of posts than through intent. Like Bill O'Reilly the ceaseless noise occasionally produced sounds resembling a meaning.
A count of posts is meaningless without a worsening attached.
The lovely Paola's point is well stated though. There's little to gain from flogging a dead horse. It wasn't Ziya who sent the community elsewhere, something that's been said repeatedly. Lessons in the community's demise are complex.
I do find it interesting that CHI-WEB Has largely disappeared as well. IXDA seems to be the only one of the three communities I participated in that remains somewhat active.
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On 2010-12-30, at 0:49, Louise Hewitt <louise.hewitt_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Bravo List, that's the spirit :)
>
> Ah, Ziya - to be fair, he / she was a pain, but without the constant stirring, I probably never would have come across half the debates I did, never have challenged my own position on things, and learned a whole lot less.
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> The decline of the list isn't the fault of Z - I'm pretty sure it's just a numbers game. We're harking back 10 years to a planet when you could fit all the people who'd ever heard the phrase 'IA' in a conference room. Now we're way above the radar, have our own 'recruitment specialists' and a top billing at most agencies. There's more interest, so there's more noise. But, you know, I just noticed the default 'To' line as well, so Jonathon, you may be right.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm looking into IxDA, Leisa and others have mentioned Quora (although I have an instinct it's just another place for me to forget to check) and Twitter is a pain in the arse (re. What they all had for lunch - and I'm just as guilty: @LouiseHewitt <- see)
>
> email, dull and unfashionable as it is, is very handy because a) I check it every day, b) I can get summaries of longer posts without reading the whole thing c) I have a nice set of rules for spam, lists etc. that stop my inbox getting claustrophobic.
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> More than anything, this is all making me feel very old, so I'm off to have a run or something.
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> Who *is* Ziya anyway? I always suspected Jared Spool in disguise :D
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