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> 1. Re: Agile & User Experience: What are the common
> denominators? (Rich Rogan)
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> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:39:08 -0500
> From: "Rich Rogan" <email@example.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Agile & User Experience: What are the common
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> Hi Dave,
> The IxDA organization has many discussions regarding Agile and UX,
> my first
> inquiry with this topic on IxDA was almost 4 years ago. Check out
> list serve.
> To give you a quick summary of the IxDA discussion, (most of this you
> probably already know):
> Agile is an umbrella of flexible project management, requirements
> and engineering methodologies, which allow for rapid/dynamic project
> in order to realize cost savings, improved visibility, and increased
> All of this looks great on paper and works pretty well in many
> cases, except
> as Agile was for the most part invented by savvy engineers for
> purposes, they "forgot" about the user experience.
> (No kidding about the above statement, my first person experience -
> I was in
> a Scrum training session with Jeff Sutherland, (co-founder of
> Scrum), and
> asked him what the Scrum plan was to integrate "User Interface
> Interaction" and "Usability". He was at a complete loss for words,
> he had
> never even thought about integrating UX/IA/ID in scrum.)
> This big hole of "non-inclusion" of the "user or user surrogate", or
> "Interface/Interaction design" at all, makes Agile methodologies
> good for
> developing code, but not necessarily for developing good products.
> Then we IA/UX/ID'ers come along with our focus on good products from
> users perspective, and realize Agile can be great for Usability and
> as well, the methodologies just need a few "UX Design plugings".
> And so we figure out how to integrate IA/UX/ID in the Agile
> and the rest is history, (until something better/newer then Agile
> along, (repeat at story beginning, possibly changing characters
> around ;)).
> Generally the way we integrate into Agile methodologies is mirroring
> "engineering perspective" from a "design perspective", with
> integrated user
> input, one step ahead of engineering, with the flexibility for last
> change management, (IxDA list has all the details).
> Hope that helps, best of luck with your presentation :)
> J. Rich Rogan
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Dave Robertson
>> First - apologies to subscribers of Agile-Usability and IxD for
>> My name is Dave Robertson, and although you can't see him, this is my
>> partner, John (JJ) Johnston. We've been asked to deliver a
>> for friends of ThoughtWorks Canada in January (to which all of you
>> welcome to come, but more later). JJ is an agile guy who's
>> interested in
>> user experience and I'm the user experience guy who's interested in
>> We've decided to make an argument that Agile and UX share a number of
>> common values and that these values should form a foundation for
>> integration (rather than simply trying to mash together our
>> techniques or chucking rocks at opposing sides).
> Joseph Rich Rogan
> President UX/UI Inc.
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