Jim, I've designed a few sites with right-hand navigation in the past. My anecdotal experience on those projects was that users didn't have any problems specifically due to the placement of the navigation. If you took a well designed page with left-hand navigation and generally mirrored the layout (flipped it horizontally), my guess is that you wouldn't see much difference in usability. Of course I'm not talking about putting labels to the right of fields or such, but just flipping the big chunks of a layout (boxes in a wireframe if you will). There is of course the ergonomic benefit you gain by having navigation and scroll bars in close proximity. I think left-navigation is simply a standard convention. I don't think it's bad to follow convention, and you shouldn't do things different from convention unless you test to make sure your deviation is actually an improvement or at least not worse. Lyle Croc O' Lyle http://crocolyle.blogspot.com/ -----Original Message----- From: kalbach@scils.rutgers.edu [mailto:kalbach@scils.rutgers.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:51 AM To: sigia-l@asis.org Subject: SIGIA-L: RE: Right-hand navigation (longish) During my case study of the project Razorfish, Germany delivered for Audi, I presented the results of a study we plan to publish. Here is a brief summary: We tested two clickable prototypes: one with a left-hand navigation, one with a right-hand navigation. With a sample size of 64 users (note: this was NOT a sample of convenience, rather it fit our target group), we found: 1. there was no significant difference in task completion time for either prototype across 6 tasks, 2. users tended to focus more on the content portion of the page with the right-hand navigation, and 3. subjectively the test participants didn't care one way or the other where the navigation was. Though folks like Nielsen and Michael Bernard (see: http://psychology.wichita.edu/surl/usabilitynews/3W/web_object.htm) agrue and show patterns in user expectations, they do not correlate breaking these patterns with problems in usability. In fact, other research shows that users are ambidextrous in the use of scroll bars in different positions: http://www.csun.edu/~renzo/research/HFESabstract.pdf And, as someone already mentioned, some research agrues for a right-hand navigation as a guideline: http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/navigation.html#four Also note that perception research shows that the human visual system naturally seeks structure in information, often within fractions of a second. Pre-attentive processing occurs in such a way that the interpretation of a display is given by the design itself rather than by the viewer's prior expectations. Recognition is based on the ability of the user to distinguish an object and generalize its function. With the Audi sites (Audi.com, Audi.de) it is clear what is navigation and what is not. That is, there is affordance of interaction and use of the navigation. We believe this contributes most to the usability of the navigation. (I'll admit to many other usability problems site, though). Consistency is also key here. Additionally, I feel the problem is may not with page design, rather with browser design. Who decided to put the two most-used functions - the back button and the scrollbar - on opposite sides of the screen? Ever heard of Fitts? I have more on this issue, and, like I said, plan to publish the study. The presentation I gave should be made available from ASIS shortly, I believe. Of course many of you will attack the methodology, conclusions, etc. That's fine. In the end, I think the jury might still be out on this issue, and we have to remember a few things: 1. It is OK to have guidelines, but we also have to know what the consequences are for breaking the rules. In this case we've just been assuming usability would decrease with a right-hand navigation. We don't really know that to be true for sure. 2. Sometimes we care *far* more about these issues than our users. We were amazed at how apathetic users were about the issue, both objectively and subjectively. Cheers, Jim