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sigia-l V1 #23

From: sigia-l (owner-sigia-l_at_asis.org)
Date: Tue May 09 2000 - 14:04:48 EDT


sigia-l Tuesday, May 9 2000 Volume 01 : Number 023

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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:10:16 -0400
From: Richard Hill <rhill_at_asis.org>
Subject: [Govella] RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

[Forwarded. Dick Hill]

I use a sketch pad and a good pen. Then I flip the page and I do another
one. I do a sketch for each user I've identified, and then I try and mash
them all into one.

Then I draw the sketch in a layout or paint program, print it out, and give
it to the designer and let him figure out the graphics and HTML.

I can do the graphics and HTML, but that's not the IA.

I'm curious as to why you would want to mandate the HTML before you know
what the surrounding visual design will look at. Certainly, the way the
visual design breaks up into tabled images will affect most wire frames.

- --- Austin Govella
austin_at_object-a.com

- ---------------
Richard Hill
American Society for Information Science
8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501
Silver Spring, MD 20910
(301) 495-0900
FAX: (301) 495-0810
http://www.asis.org

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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:43:15 -0400
From: "Montgomery, Gordon" <gordonm_at_fusive.com>
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

Hi,

Electronic white board anyone?
http://www.mimio.com/index.html

Fantastic!

G.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bollaert, Jodi [mailto:Jodi_Bollaert_at_compuware.com]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:15 AM
To: 'ASIS Info Architecture SIG'
Subject: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

Hopefully I'm not repeating any past responses. I'm a usability
specialist/info architect/occasional Web developer. I wonder if Macromedia
Dreamweaver -- a leading WYSIWYG Web development tool -- isn't an adequate
tool for info architecture design. Its built-in site mapping capability
enables you to plan your entire site without a line of code. I've used the
product a few times to plan Web sites, and have found it fairly easy to use
(I referred to the embedded help when I got stuck). By using Dreamweaver
for IA, one can easily transition to the next step, development of wire
frames and ultimately the complete site. Can anyone share any experiences
about why this would not be a good tool?

P.S. I do not work for Macromedia, but I like their products.

Jodi Bollaert
Usability Specialist
Compuware e-Commerce Digital Development Ctr.
http://www.compuware.com
1(800)292-7432, ext. 55520

> From: Robert Dornbush <Robert.Dornbush_at_thinkinc.com>
>
> I am enthusiastically interested in hearing / sharing knowledge about all
of
> our collective experience on useful IA tools. It is my feeling that the
> Perfect IA software tools have yet to be developed. I am currently using
> Visio 2000 for both site maps and wireframes, and it "works" but certainly
> leaves something to be desired...particularly on the wireframes (page
maps)
> side of things. Developing wireframes is like storyboarding a web site at
> the granular (or page by page level). It certainly requires good layout
and
> text handling capabilities for rapid prototyping purposes. I have also
used
> Quark Xpress for wireframes
> (and while it is far from perfect for the task), it has better layout for
> print presentation capabilities than ANY Microsoft application. MS word
is
> good for outlining / creating taxonomies.
>
> I would welcome all suggestions on what works better than these!!!

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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:04:47 -0400
From: Richard Hill <rhill_at_asis.org>
Subject: SIGIA-L: [Marsh] Certification

[Forwarded]

Does anyone know about the "Certified Internet Webmaster"? Or have an
opinion about it's usefulness? The related web site is
http://www.ciwcertified.com

The Master CIW Web site designer track has the interest of some of the
people I work with, but we have no clue for the professional standing of
such a certification - or even where to begin looking for such information.

Beth
marsh_at_columbus.rr.com

- ---------------
Richard Hill
American Society for Information Science
8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501
Silver Spring, MD 20910
(301) 495-0900
FAX: (301) 495-0810
http://www.asis.org

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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:36:29 EDT
From: "Kristine Jelstrom" <kajh22_at_hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

Re: Mimio

I actually just saw a demo of this product last week! Really does seem to
be quite fantastic. I was especially impressed with the additional
capability to combine audio instruction with the whiteboard. It truly
captures the teaching/learning process.

Kristine Jelstrom-Hamill
Web Content Librarian

>From: "Montgomery, Gordon" <gordonm_at_fusive.com>
>To: "'ASIS Info Architecture SIG'" <sigia-l_at_asis.org>
>Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation
>Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 14:43:15 -0400
>
>Hi,
>
>Electronic white board anyone?
>http://www.mimio.com/index.html
>
>Fantastic!
>
>G.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bollaert, Jodi [mailto:Jodi_Bollaert_at_compuware.com]
>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:15 AM
>To: 'ASIS Info Architecture SIG'
>Subject: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation
>
>
>Hopefully I'm not repeating any past responses. I'm a usability
>specialist/info architect/occasional Web developer. I wonder if Macromedia
>Dreamweaver -- a leading WYSIWYG Web development tool -- isn't an adequate
>tool for info architecture design. Its built-in site mapping capability
>enables you to plan your entire site without a line of code. I've used the
>product a few times to plan Web sites, and have found it fairly easy to use
>(I referred to the embedded help when I got stuck). By using Dreamweaver
>for IA, one can easily transition to the next step, development of wire
>frames and ultimately the complete site. Can anyone share any experiences
>about why this would not be a good tool?
>
>P.S. I do not work for Macromedia, but I like their products.
>
>Jodi Bollaert
>Usability Specialist
>Compuware e-Commerce Digital Development Ctr.
>http://www.compuware.com
>1(800)292-7432, ext. 55520
>
>
> > From: Robert Dornbush <Robert.Dornbush_at_thinkinc.com>
> >
> > I am enthusiastically interested in hearing / sharing knowledge about
>all
>of
> > our collective experience on useful IA tools. It is my feeling that the
> > Perfect IA software tools have yet to be developed. I am currently
>using
> > Visio 2000 for both site maps and wireframes, and it "works" but
>certainly
> > leaves something to be desired...particularly on the wireframes (page
>maps)
> > side of things. Developing wireframes is like storyboarding a web site
>at
> > the granular (or page by page level). It certainly requires good layout
>and
> > text handling capabilities for rapid prototyping purposes. I have also
>used
> > Quark Xpress for wireframes
> > (and while it is far from perfect for the task), it has better layout
>for
> > print presentation capabilities than ANY Microsoft application. MS word
>is
> > good for outlining / creating taxonomies.
> >
> > I would welcome all suggestions on what works better than these!!!
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:48:56 -0400
From: Tricia McKellar <tricia_mckellar_at_ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: SIGIA-L: [Marsh] Certification

WOW! That page looks awful on mac with Netscape 4.7--that would be my first
hint regarding the professionalism of the program. (Am I being harsh?)

Richard Hill wrote:

> [Forwarded]
>
> Does anyone know about the "Certified Internet Webmaster"? Or have an
> opinion about it's usefulness? The related web site is
> http://www.ciwcertified.com

- --
Tricia McKellar-- just for the SIGIA-L: *INTJ*
tricia_mckellar_at_ncsu.edu
tel. 919.515.9724
Applications Programmer
Dept of Marine, Earth & Atmospheric Sciences
North Carolina State University

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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:51:19 -0400
From: "Montgomery, Gordon" <gordonm_at_fusive.com>
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

[Kelly]

I've downloaded DENIM and am testing it -- we should all have a look.

Seems ok -- beta2.

:-)

Gordon.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Green [mailto:kelly_at_dingonline.com]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 1:15 PM
To: sigia-l_at_asis.org
Subject: Re: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

I recently stumbled upon the Web site for Cal Berkeley's "Group for User
Interface Research." I don't know anything about it except that it looks
like they are working on some tools that could be useful for interface
designers & information architects. This page lists the projects featured
at CHI 2000:

http://guir.berkeley.edu/

Kelly

- --
d!NG, A Hypermedia Co.
http://dingonline.com

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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:12:40 -0400
From: Richard Hill <rhill_at_asis.org>
Subject: [Polansky] RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

[Forwarded. Dick Hill]

Mimio! Used it! Love it! Great way to digitize the rough process and
capture the thinking at the time of discussion. Also cuts down on the large
numbers of rolled-up flip chart paper laying around my desk.

A D A M A. P O L A N S K Y | information architect
rareMEDIUM | vox: 214.742.RARE x255
fax: 214.742.7274 | cel: 214.868.4157
mailto:adamp_at_raremedium.com
www.raremedium.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Montgomery, Gordon [mailto:gordonm_at_fusive.com]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 1:43 PM
To: 'ASIS Info Architecture SIG'
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

Hi,

Electronic white board anyone?
http://www.mimio.com/index.html

Fantastic!

G.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bollaert, Jodi [mailto:Jodi_Bollaert_at_compuware.com]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:15 AM
To: 'ASIS Info Architecture SIG'
Subject: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

Hopefully I'm not repeating any past responses. I'm a usability
specialist/info architect/occasional Web developer. I wonder if Macromedia
Dreamweaver -- a leading WYSIWYG Web development tool -- isn't an adequate
tool for info architecture design. Its built-in site mapping capability
enables you to plan your entire site without a line of code. I've used the
product a few times to plan Web sites, and have found it fairly easy to use
(I referred to the embedded help when I got stuck). By using Dreamweaver
for IA, one can easily transition to the next step, development of wire
frames and ultimately the complete site. Can anyone share any experiences
about why this would not be a good tool?

P.S. I do not work for Macromedia, but I like their products.

Jodi Bollaert
Usability Specialist
Compuware e-Commerce Digital Development Ctr.
http://www.compuware.com
1(800)292-7432, ext. 55520

> From: Robert Dornbush <Robert.Dornbush_at_thinkinc.com>
>
> I am enthusiastically interested in hearing / sharing knowledge about all
of
> our collective experience on useful IA tools. It is my feeling that the
> Perfect IA software tools have yet to be developed. I am currently using
> Visio 2000 for both site maps and wireframes, and it "works" but certainly
> leaves something to be desired...particularly on the wireframes (page
maps)
> side of things. Developing wireframes is like storyboarding a web site at
> the granular (or page by page level). It certainly requires good layout
and
> text handling capabilities for rapid prototyping purposes. I have also
used
> Quark Xpress for wireframes
> (and while it is far from perfect for the task), it has better layout for
> print presentation capabilities than ANY Microsoft application. MS word
is
> good for outlining / creating taxonomies.
>
> I would welcome all suggestions on what works better than these!!!

- ---------------
Richard Hill
American Society for Information Science
8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501
Silver Spring, MD 20910
(301) 495-0900
FAX: (301) 495-0810
http://www.asis.org

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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susan Petracco <suzima27_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

We use mimio here at work--fabulous tool.
Unfortunately it's only in one training room and the
CTO's office... but it's still pretty neat.

- --- "Montgomery, Gordon" <gordonm_at_fusive.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Electronic white board anyone?
> http://www.mimio.com/index.html
>
> Fantastic!
>
> G.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bollaert, Jodi
> [mailto:Jodi_Bollaert_at_compuware.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:15 AM
> To: 'ASIS Info Architecture SIG'
> Subject: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation
>
>
> Hopefully I'm not repeating any past responses. I'm
> a usability
> specialist/info architect/occasional Web developer.
> I wonder if Macromedia
> Dreamweaver -- a leading WYSIWYG Web development
> tool -- isn't an adequate
> tool for info architecture design. Its built-in
> site mapping capability
> enables you to plan your entire site without a line
> of code. I've used the
> product a few times to plan Web sites, and have
> found it fairly easy to use
> (I referred to the embedded help when I got stuck).
> By using Dreamweaver
> for IA, one can easily transition to the next step,
> development of wire
> frames and ultimately the complete site. Can anyone
> share any experiences
> about why this would not be a good tool?
>
> P.S. I do not work for Macromedia, but I like their
> products.
>
> Jodi Bollaert
> Usability Specialist
> Compuware e-Commerce Digital Development Ctr.
> http://www.compuware.com
> 1(800)292-7432, ext. 55520
>
>
> > From: Robert Dornbush
> <Robert.Dornbush_at_thinkinc.com>
> >
> > I am enthusiastically interested in hearing /
> sharing knowledge about all
> of
> > our collective experience on useful IA tools. It
> is my feeling that the
> > Perfect IA software tools have yet to be
> developed. I am currently using
> > Visio 2000 for both site maps and wireframes, and
> it "works" but certainly
> > leaves something to be desired...particularly on
> the wireframes (page
> maps)
> > side of things. Developing wireframes is like
> storyboarding a web site at
> > the granular (or page by page level). It
> certainly requires good layout
> and
> > text handling capabilities for rapid prototyping
> purposes. I have also
> used
> > Quark Xpress for wireframes
> > (and while it is far from perfect for the task),
> it has better layout for
> > print presentation capabilities than ANY Microsoft
> application. MS word
> is
> > good for outlining / creating taxonomies.
> >
> > I would welcome all suggestions on what works
> better than these!!!
>
>
>

=====
susan m. petracco
http://www.petracco.com
suzima27_at_yahoo.com

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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:45:06 -0400
From: Richard Hill <rhill_at_asis.org>
Subject: [Polansky] RE: SIGIA-L: [Rosenfeld] measuring an IA

[Forwarded. Dick Hill]

In the simplest of terms, the measurement of an IA is in the development of
and the use of the product. Can your plan go from "blue sky" to "nuts and
bolts" without mutating too much (if at all) along the way? The proof is in
the execution. That is a longer view.

How do you justify the involvement of an IA on a project?

I had this discussion more than once at the ASIS conference. For my
experience, clients have given the IA a pretty good reception. In fact, as
the price of projects has increased from <$500K to >$3mm, the reception has
improved.

I think the reason lies in accountability.

On smaller projects the tasks of defining the user audience, developing a
site map, designing the features and functionality, wireframes, and
prototypes were done by someone in development. As the clients increase in
size...so too does the need for ceremony. The IA, while providing a
specialized focus on planning a product that can eventually get feet under
it also is there to accept responsibility for the documentation and progress
that occur between the "thinking" and the "building". The client feels as
though they have a steward in place to elicit and aggregate their unique
understanding and incorporate their concerns into the project. Clients are
often skeptical because they have seen their vision get lost in development
particularly with larger developers or consulting firms. The IA is there to
manage what used to be an intuitive leap from brainstorm to development with
the understanding that the jump isn't so short any more and needs to
measured twice before being attempted.

This is not another shot at defining what an IA does/is but an attempt to
highlight the place that an IA occupies in the eyes of a client.

A D A M A. P O L A N S K Y | information architect
rareMEDIUM | vox: 214.742.RARE x255
fax: 214.742.7274 | cel: 214.868.4157
mailto:adamp_at_raremedium.com
www.raremedium.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: James Weinheimer [mailto:jamesw_at_princeton.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 7:47 AM
To: ASIS-IA sigia-l_at_asis.org
Subject: Re: SIGIA-L: [Rosenfeld] measuring an IA

Lou,
I think you've hit the nail on the head--if you can't measure the
effectiveness
of IA, it's difficult to make a persuasive case that it's important. At
least,
if you ask someone for the money and resources to create and maintain an IA
structure, and then you go on to explain how you can't measure the
effectiveness
of what you are doing, she/he will look at you suspiciously.

I didn't answer this before because I'm writing a short article on
traditional
methods of information retrieval for people on this list, and one of the
issues
I discuss is precisely this issue of evaluation. I also expect to be flamed!
    Jim

> I posted this with the expectation of being flamed left and right. But no
> responses. Is it possible that everyone on the list agrees that you
> generally shouldn't try measuring an IA's effectiveness? (Or did my
posting
> just not make any sense? Or, god forbid, did y'all get sick of me in
> Boston? ;-).
>
> --Lou, trying to provoke in the best spirit of Peter Merholz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louis Rosenfeld [mailto:lou_at_argus-inc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:28 AM
> To: sigia-l_at_asis.org
> Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Measuring the effectiveness of an Information
> Architecture
>
> Karyn Young wrote:
> >
> > Fellow IAs:
> >
> > Question 1:
> > Has anybody had any experience with measuring the effectiveness of the
> > Information Architecture of a Website? I'm relatively familiar with
> > usability testing and I'm very familiar with the concept of evaluating
how
> > successfully a user can complete a particular task. Without a
> > focus on user
> > tasks, is it possible to assess the IA and get ideas on what
> > needs to change
> > with the IA?
>
> I agree with Mike Kuniavsky. I'm not sure that we should try to measure
an
> architecture's effectiveness. We can measure specific components of an
> architecture (e.g., specific aspects of searching or browsing), but users
> generally interact with the *whole* architecture, not just a component.
In
> fact, users are often interacting with something much broader than just a
> particular site; ethnographers like Bonnie Nardi talk about whole
> information "ecologies" made up of information resources, humans,
policies,
> and incentives that all have an impact on what kinds of information a user
> will find. We can try to build architectures that work well within such
> ecologies, but I'm not sure how we can measure them when so many variables
> are at play. Given such complexity, it might be better to try to
*evaluate*
> (read: qualify) an architecture instead of measure (read: quantify) it.
>
> Additionally, it's Just Plain Hard to quantify information retrieval
> success, which is the goal that many of us are striving for. You can
> quantify the success of known-item searches (e.g., "I'm trying to find
that
> green three-person waterproof tent I saw on sale at the LL Bean site last
> week") by measuring clicks, time elapsed, etc. But with other, often very
> common information needs such as open-ended questions (e.g., "I really
need
> to learn about investing"), it's very difficult to say when the process is
> truly complete, and therefore difficult to measure.
>
> I think that issues like this force us to be open to interpreting IA as an
> art as well as a science.
>
> ---------------
> Richard Hill
> American Society for Information Science
> 8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501
> Silver Spring, MD 20910
> (301) 495-0900
> FAX: (301) 495-0810
> http://www.asis.org

- ---------------
Richard Hill
American Society for Information Science
8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501
Silver Spring, MD 20910
(301) 495-0900
FAX: (301) 495-0810
http://www.asis.org

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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:52:37 -0700
From: "Phill_at_Systems Design" <phill.christian_at_systems-design.net>
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: [Marsh] Certification

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I don't know about that particular cert, but I do know of a fa,ily of
certifications including design, web admin, security, development, etc...
from Hycurve. I can only vouch for the content in that I created a great
deal of it. I don't know if that makes it useful or suspect ; -)

Info at:

http://www.hycurve.com

phill

Phill Christian
Systems Design
425-836-4724
http://www.systems-design.net

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-sigia-l_at_asis.org [mailto:owner-sigia-l_at_asis.org]On Behalf Of
Richard Hill
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 12:05 PM
To: sigia-l_at_asis.org
Subject: SIGIA-L: [Marsh] Certification

[Forwarded]

Does anyone know about the "Certified Internet Webmaster"? Or have an
opinion about it's usefulness? The related web site is
http://www.ciwcertified.com

The Master CIW Web site designer track has the interest of some of the
people I work with, but we have no clue for the professional standing of
such a certification - or even where to begin looking for such information.

Beth
marsh_at_columbus.rr.com

- ---------------
Richard Hill
American Society for Information Science
8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501
Silver Spring, MD 20910
(301) 495-0900
FAX: (301) 495-0810
http://www.asis.org

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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 16:32:29 -0500
From: "Austin Govella" <austin_at_dhilton.com>
Subject: SIGIA-L: RE: [Marsh] Certification

I have trouble putting much confidence into an internet organization whose
homepage displays incorrectly in Netscape Navigator 4.something...

- --- Web designer
D. Hilton Associates
Tel: (800) 367-0433, ext. 43
www.dhilton.com // www.e-hilton.com

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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:29:34 -0500
From: paula.thornton_at_luminant.com
Subject: SIGIA-L: INFO: Internet Privacy Concerns

One individual at the Boston conference expressed an interest (and concern)
in focusing on privacy issues. I thought that this article might be useful.

 Here's the News Story We Were Asked to Send You

 The following story appeared on Individual.com April 12, 2000

 enonymous.com Publishes Comprehensive Study On Internet Privacy Policies;
 In-Depth Analysis of Over 30,000 Web Sites Shows Major Changes in Internet
 Privacy

 SAN DIEGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 11, 2000 via NewsEdge Corporation -

 While more sites than ever are posting privacy policies and a large number
 ask for consumer permission regarding data usage, other sites still leave
 the door open to share user data without consent or are silent on their
 practices.

 These were the findings of the highly-anticipated report that
 enonymous.com released today on the current state of online privacy
 policies. The report is available online at
 www.privacyratings.org/research.htm.

 The enonymous.com report is the most comprehensive online privacy research
 effort to date, covering 30,000 Web site privacy policies over nine months
 and across all domains. enonymous.com rates the sites' policies from 0 to
 4 stars, based on a site's privacy policy regarding release of personally
 identifiable information. The report was supported by PC Data Online, a
 Reston, Va. market research firm that specializes in high-tech commerce
 and Web measurement.

 The report underscores the growing role that enonymous.com plays at the
 center of Internet privacy issues. Since October 1999, enonymous.com's
 pioneering efforts in rating Web site policies with a consumer-friendly
 system has earned it high marks as the trusted infomediary, offering
 privacy-driven solutions for consumers and merchants.

 "Ratings are the most visible result of our work -- nothing more than a
 way of simplifying long-winded privacy statements down to the key issues
 that matter to consumers: spam, selling identity data and user control.
 It's a symbolic system for informed choice," said company co-founder Tim
 Kane, who also directed the research.

 "The ratings also help shape the other efforts at enonymous.com -- to
 provide privacy technology solutions for merchants and consumers alike
 through a new suite of infomediary services that will allow e-Businesses
 to target users with personalized consumer messages, but without
 compromising individual identities."

 Prior to the release of this report, the ratings were useful primarily in
 evaluating individual sites using enonymous.com's free wallet software or
 at its privacyratings.org Web site. This aggregate study, however, offers
 insights about the overall climate of Internet privacy. For example,
 4-star sites commit to never share personally-identifiable information
 with third parties, nor use such data to contact a user without
 permission. But only 3.5 percent -- or 1,027 of the 30,000 sites surveyed
 -- qualified for 4-stars. Among the busiest top 1,000 sites, the
 percentage of 4-star sites was 8.6 percent, indicating more privacy
 sensitivity.

 The report was warmly received at the "Computers, Freedom, and Privacy
 2000" Conference (CFP2000), where it was recently previewed. Jason
 Catlett, president of Junkbusters Corp., commented, "Enonymous.com's
 survey distills megabytes of legalese from cyberspace into a practical
 message. A large fraction of businesses won't even tell you what they do
 with your personal information, and those that do post a policy probably
 don't have much privacy in it. Of the top 1,000 sites, 37 percent
 published no privacy policy, and 30 percent had a policy of allowing
 themselves to share or sell information about people without their
 consent. And over the past nine months, a period of intense public
 scrutiny of privacy practices, 117 of the 1,000 seemed to improve, while
 150 got worse."

 Other analysts see a more positive trend in the study. "Enonymous.com's
 comprehensive survey shows remarkable improvement in privacy choices and
 protections," said the Pacific Research Institute's Sonia Arrison. "As
 recently as 1998, the FTC found that only two percent of sites provided a
 comprehensive privacy policy. Now, in less than two years, that number has
 grown to a whopping 63 percent. This study shows that the market is
 responding to consumer concerns, and that government regulations at this
 point in time are both unnecessary and premature. And, the very existence
 of the survey itself is revealing. In a climate of serious privacy
 concerns on the part of consumers, it's appropriate that a business --
 enonymous.com -- has sprung up to monitor and track the policies of other
 businesses. Welcome to the Internet revolution."

 About enonymous Corp.

 enonymous Corp., a venture-funded San Diego company, was formed in
 February 1999 to facilitate e-commerce with practical solutions to Web
 privacy and personalization. The company's practical privacy approach --
 and unparalleled site privacy ratings -- empower consumers to control
 their identity online, while providing Web managers with both simple
 guidelines to respect privacy and advanced technology to better understand
 and serve their customers.

 True to its name, enonymous.com achieves its objectives without ever
 knowing the names, e-mail addresses or the identities of the individuals
 it serves. For more information, visit the company's Web site at
 www.enonymous.com, or contact enonymous.com at 9605 Scranton Rd., Ste.
 240, San Diego, CA. 92121. Tel: 800/555-7708, Fax: 858/587-7125, E-mail
 kane_at_enonymous.com.

 About PC Data Online

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 Internet traffic to Web sites and conducts custom polls and studies
 through its sample population of home Internet users. With a panel of over
 120,000 home Internet users, PC Data Online has the largest sample
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:38:35 +0200
From: Peter Boersma <peter_at_design.nl>
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: Re: IA Tool Recommendation

At 5/8/00 03:51 PM Monday, Montgomery, Gordon wrote:
>[Kelly]
>
>I've downloaded DENIM and am testing it -- we should all have a look.
>
>Seems ok -- beta2.

I found it strange to start creating a IA in a small space: The tool will
zoom in for you and "create" (progressively display) the underlying pages.
And since it's meant to be used with a pen-based input device, it was
awkward to write the names of pages/sections with a mouse. The individual
characters seemed to be messed up when zooming in/out, but they looked
alright in the zoom-factor that you wrote them in. The pie-menus also seem
to be better suited for pen-based input (or I just need to get used to
them).

What I liked was the ability to "run" the architecture. At a certain point
you create hyperlinks that actually work in run-mode.

Peter
- --
Peter Boersma, Information Ergonomist
<mailto:peter_at_design.nl>

Satama Amsterdam, <http://www.design.nl/>
Kruislaan 402, 1098 SM Amsterdam, The Netherlands
phone +31 (0)20 663 7769, fax +31 (0)20 668 1468
- -------------------------------------------------
http://sigchi.nl -|- http://www.design.nl/~peter/

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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:57:04 -0400
From: "Kristine Palmquist" <kpalmquist_at_enlighten.com>
Subject: SIGIA-L: IA Tools - Proforma?

Has anyone out there had any experience using Proforma?
(www.proformacorp.com)

We're looking into using it for its abilities to map business processes,
user experience/navigation/workflow, and possibly some very basic interface
elements. Whereas Visio is simply a drawing tool which makes little or no
record of relationships between objects, Proforma is more of a modeling
tool, which could be very helpful! We shall see, though.

Has anyone seen any pros or cons?

Thanks,
Kristine

Kristine Palmquist
Information Architect, Enlighten
kpalmquist_at_enlighten.com
734/668-6678 x50

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Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:19:12 -0400
From: Kathy Moore <Kathy.Moore_at_webct.com>
Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: IA Tools (We Need Better Ones!)

I haven't tried DENIM or mimio -and want to - but if you're using a drawing
tool to create site diagrams and rough page views, there are easier and
cheaper tools than Illustrator. I curently use Macromedia Fireworks. It's
about $200, and is easier to use than Illustrator or Freehand. It's designed
for use on the web and exports very clean gifs.

An older tool with some of the same virtues is Corel Xara. I stopped using
it when Fireworks came out and am not sure whether it's still avaiable.

Kathy Moore
kathy.moore_at_webct.com
User Interface Designe
WebCCT

- -----Original Message-----
From: paulette_at_oven.com
To: Robert Dornbush; 'Henric Beiers'; 'sigia-l_at_asis.org'
Sent: 5/8/00 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: SIGIA-L: IA Tools (We Need Better Ones!)

Unfortunately, Visio is only for PC. What about the Mac people?
Personally, I find Adobe Illustrator to be the best at sitemaps and
wireframes, but it does have a fairly steep learning curve...

I'm looking forward to the new Adobe IA products that someone mentioned
earlier...

paulette bluhm | OVENDIGITAL Toronto | paulette_at_oven.com |
http://www.oven.com

> From: Robert Dornbush <Robert.Dornbush_at_thinkinc.com>
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:25:14 -0400
> To: "'Henric Beiers'" <henric.beiers_at_rmit.edu.au>,
"'sigia-l_at_asis.org'"
> <sigia-l_at_asis.org>
> Subject: RE: SIGIA-L: IA Tools (We Need Better Ones!)
>
> I am enthusiastically interested in hearing / sharing knowledge about
all of
> our collective experience on useful IA tools. It is my feeling that
the
> Perfect IA software tools have yet to be developed. I am currently
using
> Visio 2000 for both site maps and wireframes, and it "works" but
certainly
> leaves something to be desired...particularly on the wireframes (page
maps)
> side of things. Developing wireframes is like storyboarding a web
site at
> the granular (or page by page level). It certainly requires good
layout and
> text handling capabilities for rapid prototyping purposes. I have
also used
> Quark Xpress for wireframes
> (and while it is far from perfect for the task), it has better layout
for
> print presentation capabilities than ANY Microsoft application. MS
word is
> good for outlining / creating taxonomies.
>
> I would welcome all suggestions on what works better than these!!!
>
>
> Robert E. Dornbush, Jr.
> User Experience Architect
> answerthink, atlanta
> 404-682-2500 main line
> 404-682-2311 direct line
> 404-682-2508 fax
> rdornbush_at_answerthink.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henric Beiers [mailto:henric.beiers_at_rmit.edu.au]
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 9:02 AM
> To: sigia-l_at_asis.org
> Subject: SIGIA-L: IA Tools (again!)
>
>
> I have had a few responses to my request for people to let me know
what
> tools they use in the course of their work as IAs - but not very many!
>
> Personally I think it would be a very useful exercise to have a
collation of
> all the different things people use, and how they find them to work
with,
> but maybe I am (almost) alone in this. (Or maybe you think of it as
> something you would rather not divulge to the competition?)
>
> Do people here think that it is a useful thing to do or not? (Genuine
> question)
>
> If people basically think it is not worth it then I will cease and
desist.
> But if you do think it is a good idea then contributions please!!
>
> Henric
>
>
> Original request follows:
> ========================================
> It occured to me that in the course of some of these discussions some
people
> are casually mentioning various software and other tools that they are
using
> to perform various tasks in the course of their IA work. Also there
have
> been references to various books that people have found directly or
> indirectly useful in informing their work.
>
> I was thinking that it would be a useful exercise to compile a list of
these
> for the benefit of the group.
>
> If anyone is interested in sending me a list of the tools/instuments
that
> they use, (and books they think are relevent), I will collect and sort
them
> and send the lists back to sigia-l. Please include a short (like no
more
> than a smallish paragraph) description of the item and/or how you use
it.
>
>
> Henric Beiers - Lecturer
> School of Business Information Technology
> Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology
> Melbourne, Victoria 3000, Australia
> Ph: +61 3 9925 5820
> Fax: +61 3 9925 5837
> Email: henric.beiers_at_rmit.edu.au
> ICQ: 21924763
> URL: http://www.bf.rmit.edu.au/bit/html/lecturers_2.html

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